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Got another call from a dear friend at a giant venture firm asking us to get a CEO business going, stat. Turns out a LOT of Founders are burning out, backed into a corner having done stupid valuations they can't live up to, finally running out of cash, no plan. So the mortality rate is growing really, alarmingly fast. As if the VC ecosystem needed more headaches. Brace for a lot more, people. Here's the problem w CEO recruiting. You can't have Greg Schott. GET OVER IT. Build a thesis on the core skills you need and commit to a spec that defines a killer first time CEO or you're gonna look for a year and settle and everyone will hate each other at the end of a miserable process, regardless of who your recruiter is. VC's keep complaining about the lack of CEO recruiters and sure, maybe for good reason. But I don't think it's their fault that CEO hiring is broken. When VC Boards stop naval gazing about whether they can get that one celebrity CEO to turn their broken startup around or get it over the hump, accept that a first timer is the only path, etc., then the processes will be much faster and smoother than they are today. Sure, there are rare exceptions but exceptions don't equal a thesis and without a thesis, you're groping around in the dark on any task. So get a thesis together and go hunt. Simple. Take Dan Rogers as an example. Here is a first time CEO who has completely re-tooled a leadership team in under a year, a complete savage at hiring, etc. Stats don't lie. First timers (mostly Founders) generate the best outcomes. I showed Dave, the CEO of Hashi who sold it for 6.4B to IBM, to a bunch of VC's back in my CEO recruiting days. First timer so they didn't grab him. Smart people took a bet on him. VOILA. Schott was a first timer before MULE. Muglia from SNOW. Zach from Netsuite, showed him to a bunch of clueless VC's too and look what happened. SIGH. I love VC's but man. Amazing how such a bunch of smart people can do stupid shit repeatedly. To me, that's the definition of insanity.

Let me amend this post a little. And name some rare exceptions. These exceptions distort my thesis, but have to be noted. David Karnstedt Bill Cook Doug M. all come to mind right off top of head. Problem is, most CO’s can’t attract them. One of them told me yesterday he pointed out all the warts of the co he just joined, the VC completely got it and was honest about all of them and committed to burning them off the entity. So he joined. To get these people, you have to say yeah, my baby isn’t beautiful. It isn’t an Ivy League level company. But you can get it into a UC, solidly so let’s partner and get there. If VC’s did more of this vs over hyping and over selling, they’d convert more veterans like these folks.

Jason M. Lemkin

SaaStr Annual 2024 is Sept 10-12 in SF Bay!! See You There!!

1mo

Good post on a topic rarely discussed

Ryan Yackel

CMO | 3x B2B Marketing Leader | Product Marketing OG | PLG | Author

1mo

I love seeing Dan Rogers coming from a marketing background to CEO. Obviously, I'm biased, but I definitely think marketing leaders have the leadership skills that translate to CEO positions (e.g., team and culture building, storytelling, vision setting, financial literacy).

Smart to bet on a hungry first timer CEO. It does require a gutsy board though. Probably NOT made up of scared first timers ;-) Good luck

Rachel Truair

Agile, Award-Winning Startup & Fortune 100s Marketer | Speaker | Writer

1mo

I got to see Greg Schott speak a few years ago and he talked about this. That essentially first time CEOs, unless they are founders, always get the “worst” opportunities which are huge turnarounds (like MULE). And their success in that turnaround then proves out their greatness. I think your thesis is spot on!

John W. Beisty

Financials Practice Lead at Workday

1mo

Interesting that both Dan and Greg cut their teeth in marketing before jumping to CEO roles. Also you should write a book Andy Price. Your posts are too golden to not capitalize on them $$$.

They aren't that smart and they are lazy, otherwise they would step in as acting CEOs to save their own investments

Brian Greene

Platform Engineering for Data with NeuronSphere.io

1mo

By definition VCs are looking for the 1 in 100 win… why would we suddenly assume even vaguely consistent success at defining what a good CEO could look like?

Story Tweedie-Yates

VP Product & Marketing IT Security

1mo

I really love your comments - super insightful and also very interesting - I always read them :)

Best post I’ve seen in a while! Well said… I’ve lived it from both sides and you are spot on.

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